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04/20/2022 03:30 PM Senate RESOURCES

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+= SB 227 STATE OWNERSHIP OF SUBMERGED LAND TELECONFERENCED
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            SB 227-STATE OWNERSHIP OF SUBMERGED LAND                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:15:21 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR   REVAK   reconvened   the  meeting   and   announced   the                                                               
consideration of  SENATE BILL NO.  227 "An Act relating  to state                                                               
ownership  of  submerged  land within  and  adjacent  to  federal                                                               
areas; and providing for an effective date."                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
[SB 227 was previously heard on 4/8/2022.]                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR   REVAK  solicited   a  motion   to  adopt   the  committee                                                               
substitute.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:15:43 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  MICCICHE moved  to adopt  the committee  substitute (CS)                                                               
for SB 227, work order 32-GS2561\B, as the working document.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:15:56 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR REVAK objected for discussion purposes.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:16:20 PM                                                                                                                    
BEN MULLIGAN, Deputy Commissioner,  Alaska Department of Fish and                                                               
Game, Juneau, Alaska, stated that  the department spoke to Alaska                                                               
National  Interest Lands  Conservation Act  (ANILCA) experts  who                                                               
suggested several changes. He referred  to subsection (j) on page                                                               
4, line 9 of Version B, which read:                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     (j) For  purposes of (b)  and (c) of this  section, the                                                                    
     commissioner    shall   make    a   determination    of                                                                    
     navigability  based  on  evidence consistent  with  the                                                                    
     meaning  given  to "navigable  water"  in  (g) of  this                                                                    
     section, and after considering factors that include                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:17:08 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. MULLIGAN pointed out that  the ANILCA experts interpreted the                                                               
language  in  Version   A  as  too  constraining   and  that  the                                                               
department  could  only  consider   what  was  listed  below  for                                                               
criteria  to  determine  navigability.  He  said  the  department                                                               
suggested  adding   the  language   "that  include"   to  provide                                                               
flexibility in  future situations when  determining navigability.                                                               
Still,  if it  did not  meet the  criteria listed,  the navigable                                                               
water could be brought forward and not constrain the department.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:17:52 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. MULLIGAN  referred to page 4,  line 12 to the  second change,                                                               
which read:                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
   (1) a showing that a river is boatable at any time                                                                           
        during the open-water season ....                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. MULLIGAN stated that the  original version of SB 227, Version                                                               
A, read:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
   (1) a showing that a river is boatable at least one-                                                                         
        third of the open water season ...                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MULLIGAN  explained  that  this change  was  made  to  avoid                                                               
restricting the department when  determining navigable waters and                                                               
asserting the state's rights on navigability.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:18:41 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KAWASAKI  referred to the definition  of navigability. He                                                               
asked if  boatable was a term  of art. He further  asked if there                                                               
was a stronger  definition of navigability in  current statute or                                                               
used by federal agencies.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:19:10 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  MULLIGAN deferred  to the  Department  of Natural  Resources                                                               
(DNR).                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:19:44 PM                                                                                                                    
JIM WALKER,  Public Access Assertion  and Defense  Section Chief,                                                               
Division  of  Mining,  Land  and  Water,  Department  of  Natural                                                               
Resources, Anchorage,  Alaska, explained  that the  definition of                                                               
navigability  is largely  found within  case law  for determining                                                               
what it means  for a particular river to be  deemed navigable for                                                               
title  or  ownership  purposes.  As  discussed  in  the  previous                                                               
hearing, navigability can mean different  things depending on the                                                               
context. He indicated  that the term "boatability"  refers to the                                                               
ability  to boat  with  the requisite  criteria  on a  particular                                                               
waterway for the period of the  open water season. He stated that                                                               
boatability is a  useful term for better  understanding the legal                                                               
definition of navigability.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:21:25 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  REVAK   withdrew  his  objection;  he   heard  no  further                                                               
objection, and Version B was adopted as the working document.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:21:44 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:24:28 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  REVAK  reconvened  the  meeting.  He  explained  that  the                                                               
committee would like  to further review some of  the legal issues                                                               
on this bill.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:24:48 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR REVAK held SB 227 in committee.                                                                                           

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 180 Written Public Testimony as of 4.20.2022 at 7AM.pdf SRES 4/20/2022 3:30:00 PM
SB 180
SB 180.A.1.pdf SRES 4/20/2022 3:30:00 PM
SB 180
SB180.A.2.pdf SRES 4/20/2022 3:30:00 PM
SB 180
SB180.A.3.pdf SRES 4/20/2022 3:30:00 PM
SB 180
SB180.A.4.pdf SRES 4/20/2022 3:30:00 PM
SB 180
SB 177 Letter of Opposition Kay Brown.pdf SRES 4/20/2022 3:30:00 PM
SB 177
SB177.A.1.pdf SRES 4/20/2022 3:30:00 PM
SB 177
SB177.A.7.pdf SRES 4/20/2022 3:30:00 PM
SB 177
HB 54 Letter of Support Alisha Asplund.pdf SRES 4/20/2022 3:30:00 PM
HB 54
SB 219 Letter of Support Shirley D. Winther.pdf HRES 5/6/2022 1:00:00 PM
SRES 4/20/2022 3:30:00 PM
SB 219
SB 219 Supporting Testimony Documents Shirley D. Winther.pdf SRES 4/20/2022 3:30:00 PM
SB 219
SB 219 Letter of Support Cindy Rainey-Bell.pdf HRES 5/6/2022 1:00:00 PM
SRES 4/20/2022 3:30:00 PM
SB 219
SB 228 Letter of Opposition Molly Dischner.pdf SRES 4/20/2022 3:30:00 PM
SB 228
Alaska Fisheries Presentation, MatSu Fisheries, Mat-Su Fish & Wildlife Commission.pdf SRES 4/20/2022 3:30:00 PM
Alaska Fisheries Presentation, MatSu Fisheries, Mat-Su Fish & Wildlife Comm, Supporting Documents.pdf SRES 4/20/2022 3:30:00 PM
HB 54 Fiscal Note ADF&G 2.2.2022.pdf SRES 4/20/2022 3:30:00 PM
HB 54
HCR 2 Fiscal Note 2.7.2022.pdf SRES 4/20/2022 3:30:00 PM
HCR 2
SB 177 Fiscal Note DEC 1.27.2022.pdf SRES 4/20/2022 3:30:00 PM
SB 177
SB 180 Fiscal Note DEC ADMIN 1.28.2022.pdf SRES 4/20/2022 3:30:00 PM
SB 180
SB 180 Fiscal Note Fund Transfers 1.28.2022.pdf SRES 4/20/2022 3:30:00 PM
SB 180
SB 180 Fiscal Note DEC 1.28.2022.pdf SRES 4/20/2022 3:30:00 PM
SB 180
SB 219 Fiscal Note DNR 3.11.2022.pdf SRES 4/20/2022 3:30:00 PM
SB 219
SB 180 Fiscal Note DEC ADMIN(2) 1.28.2022.pdf SRES 4/20/2022 3:30:00 PM
SB 180
SB 228 Fiscal Note DEC 1.25.2022.pdf SRES 4/20/2022 3:30:00 PM
SB 228
SB 227 Fiscal Note DNR 3.10.2022.pdf HFSH 5/12/2022 10:00:00 AM
SRES 4/20/2022 3:30:00 PM
SB 227
HB 54 Fiscal Note ADF&G 2.2.2022.pdf SRES 4/20/2022 3:30:00 PM
HB 54
HB 54 v.D.pdf SRES 4/20/2022 3:30:00 PM
HB 54
SB 227 v.B.pdf SRES 4/20/2022 3:30:00 PM
SB 227